Anonymous5(2): @deathstriker: OKay. How about this. We'll stop bitching and complaining about Poison being drawn with a pussy, when ya'll stop bitching about dicks being drawn on other chicks. Deal? Didn't think so. So shut up. And will someone edit in a cock already?
Anonymous6: For the love of....can you people just get over it already? they've been intentionally vague about it,so just enjoy whichever you like. if it bothers you that bad,don't look at the pic.
Anonymous7(2): @deathstriker: How is it hypocrisy? I'm not the one who comes onto pics like this and start flame wars with piss poor arguments like 'She's in "The Girls of Capcom" so she must be a girl' or 'Newhalf is not synonymous with a pre-operative male to female transexual' (which it is).
Also, I don't give a shit whether people stop bitching about adding dicks to girls that aren't supposed to have them. I really don't.
Anonymous8(2): @Anonymous: See, that's the thing. Drawing Poison without a dick doesn't bother me. I'm all for artistic freedom. What bothers me is the ignorance of people like deathstriker who don't realize that, while Capcom remains ambiguous as to Poison's gender and sex, and what she's packing in those jorts, Poison WAS originally designed and conceived of as a newhalf, meaning that she was originally a pre-operative male to female transexual.
The fact that I want to see pics like this edited so that she has a penis is trivial, at best.
Anonymous9(6): @Anonymous: Agreed. Whole thing is trivial really. My comment wasn't meant for you,but in general. It's a debate that can go on forever,so i say screw the debate and enjoy the porn :)
deathstriker: If you can find a link that futa means ONLY what you want it to mean then I'll be happy to take back my statements, since you have failed to provide that then I can assume whatever I want and make fun of you and your hypocritical behavior.
Anonymous10(2): @deathstriker: You can keep calling it hypocritical, even though I clearly explained how it isn't. Also, please stop confusing futanari for newhalf. Futanari is a blanket term for mixed genders. Newhalf is a specific type of futanari, namely a pre-operative male to female transexual (breasts, penis, testicles, no vagina). All you have to do is look at the wikipedia entry on futanari. From the article itself, in case you're too lazy to look it up yourself:
"While the English speaking community adopted the more polite term futanari (or short futa [ふた]), the Japanese community adopted the English term newhalf (ニューハーフ), with futanari tending to refer to hermaphrodites and newhalf tending to refer specifically to characters with female bodies but only male genitals."
I'm sure you'll continue to argue this point, so this will be the last time I respond to anything you say from here on out, as it is a pointless waste of time to try and argue with blatant ignorance, such as yours. Good day.
deathstriker: Then I will ask you to type on Google these words.
"newhalf japanese daily motion" the last one as a whole word.
Enter the second link and from the video description you will read this thing.
Coco is a cute japanese newhalf 19years old. Had spent around 500000yens for cosmetical surgery including Breast Augmentation and Orchiectomy. We in Japan say newhalf for generic word for transgenders, transsexuals, ts persons, + dressers, L.boys, pre&post op-ts
So, either you are right or this Japanese person is right, but no one of you can be right at the same time. So please, your facts that Poison has a penis instead of wagoo.
You cannot present them yet you do not retrack them? Hypocricy.
Anonymous11: So Anon sites Wikipedia and you come back with some internet tabloid article about some dimwit Japanese pornstar. You really are retarded, deathstriker.
Now granted, at times, wikipedia can be an unreliable source of information but in this case I'll go with it, as opposed to a fucking outdated tabloid article. But whatever, man. You keep diluting yourself. Nevermind the fact that when Poison was created, as a newhalf (pre-op male to female transsexual), in the late 80s, newhalf clubs were popular in Japan. That's all I'm going to add to this, because Anon was right. You are so steeped in your own ignorance you refuse to see the facts even when they are shoved in your face. You resort to asinine tactics like finding obscure quotes and not understanding the definition of words like hypocrisy. Your stupidity and ignorance is going to give me a nosebleed.
deathstriker: @Anonymous: "At times", you really are the biggest idiot al around if your think wiki gets wrong "at times".
Tell me, why a Japanese promoter working with a Japanese shemale model would lie about what a term means? Does wikipedia knows better that a man that actually hails from this place?
Does DM and the exact video can be "moderated" like wiki does (and when I say "moderated" I mean butchered)?
All I'm asking are the HARD facts that Poison has a penis in her pants instead of ALL the possible solutions "newhalf" means.
Give me this or just shut up and stop throw tantrums when a vagina Poison comes because, this might be the correct version.
Anonymous12(2): @deathstriker: I really hate myself for responding to this. I know I shouldn't. But I can't help myself. You really are an ignorant fuck, aren't you! You focus on one simple incongruity per each post to prove your point. You want more proof? Fine. Look at Wiktionary. Look at Urban Dictionary. You insist on considering an abstract, obscure posts as your source. I can do the same. Both those sites have the general consensus that Newhalf refers to people with female bodies, but male (and only male) genitalia. You insist that one person thinks that newhalf means any variety of transgendered people, yet here I, and a helpful other Anon have given you multiple instances of it meaning what it actually means. I've given you all the hard facts you could ever ask for, yet you still want to call me a hypocrite. I really don't know what more I can do. And honestly, I don't care. I really don't have much more to do with my life right now, so proving you to be the ignorant fuck that you are has just become my new purpose in life.
deathstriker: All you have given me is your baseless opinion from a site (and its sidekicks) that the most audicious views can be regarded as "truth" if you have moderation by your side (I know two cases of proffesional historians that got their peer reviewd thesis shot down because...mods).
Again I ask what reason or agenda this man that IS Japanese and works with Japanese newhalf model would have to lie about it?
Anonymous13(2): MY baseless opinion? Those are not my opinion, you moron! I didn't have anything to do with either of those entries. And there has to be SOME sort of "truth" to what I'm saying if OTHER fucking people are agreeing with it.
Yet here you are, referencing your exact same source. So ONE Japanese guy says that newhalf is a catch-all term. By that logic, all I have to do is find ONE Japanese person that disagrees with that, and it is negated. Tell you what. You find me a site or a source in which multiple Japanese people define newhalf as an umbrella term for transgendered people, and I will concede to it.
Anonymous14: You may as well hang it up,dude. I've dealt with people like that before. You'd have better luck getting through to a brick wall. Like an ex-friend of mine that swears Kenwood are the best speakers,despite me and another friend pointing out few people carry them these days. Some people just can't accept things.
Anonymous15(2): See, here's the difference though, deathstriker. All I have to do is type newhalf into a serach engine and I get multiple sites that tell me that I and the majority of the rest of the world are correct. I've answered your question multiple times. You just refuse to hear reason or rationale. You want to stick to your firm belief that just because one Japanese promoter said it, it's true. I don't have any clue why he says what he says. I don't think he has any agenda per se. I wouldn't know. I've never met him. All I'm pointing out is that the general consensus is that newhalf only refers to pre-operative male to female transsexuals. Also, as Anon 11 points out, Newhalf clubs featuring that specific type of transgender were very popular in the late 80s. I'm simply using common sense. I'm sorry you feel it necessary to continue insisting that you are right in the face of so many facts that point to the contrary. If you feel that Poison might have a vagina, artificial or otherwise, that is your prerogative.
On an aside, considering how vehement you are on the subject, along with the condescending and downright insulting tone in the majority of your posts, and the need you feel to continue responding to my posts, I find it highly unlikely that you are doing this simply for your 'own personal amusement'.
deathstriker: Yep, like a "half marathon gran prix", "Half the Sky" foundatiion, a youtube video like my DM video you dismissed so easily until now and the newest "Half-Life" game (this one was really importand I admit).
You admit you do not know why he makes that statement "per se", yet you refuse to try find a reasoning behind it, yet you hold onto to your firm belief because, hey it's what "Oi Polloi" are saying, and from what we know truth is ALLWAYS found in the numbers, right, right, riiiiight?
We all have prerogatives, I'm simply pointing out that everyone's guess is as good as the next guy's right now.
She might have a dick? Yes she might.
She might have a vagina? Yes she could have as well.
She could be a boy, yet a very girly boy? Indeed.
She could be... you know where I'm heading.
Also regarding the "own personal amusement" part, please tell me, have you ever watched me BASH (not giving my opinion, actually bash) any other futa pictures or futa fans besides Poison ones?
The only correct answer to that is "no". I usually choke it and find another picture to my liking here.
You want to know why? Because you guys are the worst examlpes of any fetish fandom I have had the misfortune to know, I wont go on about it, but let me tell you, you guys are bringing it upon yourselves and you deserve every bit of scorn coming your way.
Anonymous16(2): Says a user with a MLP icon. . . Tell me is it cold up there on that high horse of yours?
Your 'scorn' is laughable at best, considering you are and always will be in the minority.
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Also, I don't give a shit whether people stop bitching about adding dicks to girls that aren't supposed to have them. I really don't.
The fact that I want to see pics like this edited so that she has a penis is trivial, at best.
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"While the English speaking community adopted the more polite term futanari (or short futa [ふた]), the Japanese community adopted the English term newhalf (ニューハーフ), with futanari tending to refer to hermaphrodites and newhalf tending to refer specifically to characters with female bodies but only male genitals."
I'm sure you'll continue to argue this point, so this will be the last time I respond to anything you say from here on out, as it is a pointless waste of time to try and argue with blatant ignorance, such as yours. Good day.
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"newhalf japanese daily motion" the last one as a whole word.
Enter the second link and from the video description you will read this thing.
So, either you are right or this Japanese person is right, but no one of you can be right at the same time. So please, your facts that Poison has a penis instead of wagoo.
You cannot present them yet you do not retrack them? Hypocricy.
Now granted, at times, wikipedia can be an unreliable source of information but in this case I'll go with it, as opposed to a fucking outdated tabloid article. But whatever, man. You keep diluting yourself. Nevermind the fact that when Poison was created, as a newhalf (pre-op male to female transsexual), in the late 80s, newhalf clubs were popular in Japan. That's all I'm going to add to this, because Anon was right. You are so steeped in your own ignorance you refuse to see the facts even when they are shoved in your face. You resort to asinine tactics like finding obscure quotes and not understanding the definition of words like hypocrisy. Your stupidity and ignorance is going to give me a nosebleed.
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Tell me, why a Japanese promoter working with a Japanese shemale model would lie about what a term means? Does wikipedia knows better that a man that actually hails from this place?
Does DM and the exact video can be "moderated" like wiki does (and when I say "moderated" I mean butchered)?
All I'm asking are the HARD facts that Poison has a penis in her pants instead of ALL the possible solutions "newhalf" means.
Give me this or just shut up and stop throw tantrums when a vagina Poison comes because, this might be the correct version.
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Again I ask what reason or agenda this man that IS Japanese and works with Japanese newhalf model would have to lie about it?
Yet here you are, referencing your exact same source. So ONE Japanese guy says that newhalf is a catch-all term. By that logic, all I have to do is find ONE Japanese person that disagrees with that, and it is negated. Tell you what. You find me a site or a source in which multiple Japanese people define newhalf as an umbrella term for transgendered people, and I will concede to it.
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But the last part is adorable, you have falied to answer my last question and I asked it multiple times, yet you want me to convince "you".
Sorry there, but I hardly care for what you have to say here. I only continue this for my own personal amusement.
On an aside, considering how vehement you are on the subject, along with the condescending and downright insulting tone in the majority of your posts, and the need you feel to continue responding to my posts, I find it highly unlikely that you are doing this simply for your 'own personal amusement'.
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You admit you do not know why he makes that statement "per se", yet you refuse to try find a reasoning behind it, yet you hold onto to your firm belief because, hey it's what "Oi Polloi" are saying, and from what we know truth is ALLWAYS found in the numbers, right, right, riiiiight?
We all have prerogatives, I'm simply pointing out that everyone's guess is as good as the next guy's right now.
She might have a dick? Yes she might.
She might have a vagina? Yes she could have as well.
She could be a boy, yet a very girly boy? Indeed.
She could be... you know where I'm heading.
Also regarding the "own personal amusement" part, please tell me, have you ever watched me BASH (not giving my opinion, actually bash) any other futa pictures or futa fans besides Poison ones?
The only correct answer to that is "no". I usually choke it and find another picture to my liking here.
You want to know why? Because you guys are the worst examlpes of any fetish fandom I have had the misfortune to know, I wont go on about it, but let me tell you, you guys are bringing it upon yourselves and you deserve every bit of scorn coming your way.
Your 'scorn' is laughable at best, considering you are and always will be in the minority.
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