Nuxersopus: @estoyloco: I never understood how someone can put so much energy into a harmless show for kids (or the general audience if you please) about cute cartoon ponies befriending or fighting against others, they don't even watch.
That's like the least important thing to care about. Shouldn't you rather care about economical disasters, life-threatening diseases or just people being mean to each other?
I could still somewhat understand it if you dislike the fandom because it can have a tendency to shove things down your throat, but hating on the show itself..? Actively going to a porn website just to tell people that you want the show to be cancelled. Why? Are you just bored or do you really think this is a meaningful task?
estoyloco: @Nuxersopus: thia things arent the cartoon... this things are drawings made by rabbit cloppers. i dislike the cartoons and i blame all bronies (males 16+) who are all jerks and never follow the cartoons theme
PinkBallons: @estoyloco: First of all, cancelling the show would not make all bronies disappear. I only have praise for the first and (to a lesser degree) second seasons of Friendship is Magic, and I still consider myself a brony.
Second, the show's creator herself has said that the ponies mate just like horses in our world. While sex isn't something that happens within the show (for reasons that are completely obvious), the ponies still do it, along with many other things that would be inappropriate for the child audience. Exploring those things through art and sharing it with others does not make people "jerks".
CrotchboobAddict: ^ Heh, that's funny. I like all seasons (though first one and second are easily the best) and are excited for season 5, but don't consider myself a brony.
Still, i sometimes watch a lot those youtube clips from 2011 when I first discovered the show.. when the fans wasn't so.. insane and overly diverse yet.
And it's true bronies won't disappear even if they cancel the show.. MLP:FiM is one of those things people are going to obsess over for a loong time.
traffik: @CrotchboobAddict: I don't really call myself a 'brony' either. I'm a fan of the show, but I don't obsess over all the stuff that the hardcore fan community does. I guess if anything, I'm 'brony-adjacent'.
PinkBallons: @CrotchboobAddict: @traffik: A brony is just a teenage or older male that enjoys Friendship is Magic. All other implications, be them positive or negative, depend on who you ask. I can understand you not wanting to be associated with the more hardcore fans, but those fans are the minority. I honestly don't see how you aren't a brony.
traffik: @PinkBallons: I guess my feeling is, no one seems to be unified on exactly what the definition of 'brony' is. Just because you feel that it applies to any adult male fan of the show, doesn't mean that that's the way everyone else looks at it. I'm sure that there are many hardcore fans who would look at someone like myself, who pretty much just watches the episodes once when they originally air and stays out of the fan community, and say "Pffft, you're not a brony." And I'd be OK with that.
traffik: @CrotchboobAddict: Yeah, I definitely feel like the definition... kind of shifted somewhere. 'Adult male FiM fans' felt like it fit back when the term first came about, but now it seems like it applies more to the more avid fans among that group. It's been 4 1/2 years now, and I've seen the documentary, and a lot of stuff online, and what it comes down to is that virtually anything I see that's accredited to 'bronies', I look at and say "That does not represent me".
Others can disagree, and that's fine, because in the end the only person who gets to choose what labels apply to me is me.
PinkBallons: @traffik: Again, you're associating the term with only the hardcore fans, and the things they create. This is about you, and the fact that you enjoy a show. Besides, while you claim to only watch the show and stay out of the fan community, you're in it right now.
The reason I understand where you're coming from is because I also refuse to accept a label others would place upon me. I've been called a furry many times simply because I enjoy FiM, as under the loosest of definitions, I do fit into that category. I don't agree with that definition, however. It's ridiculous to claim people are part of a group the instant they enjoy any form of anthropomorphization, as by that definition I can guarantee 80% or more of the world's population are furries.
The point in all of this is that I feel the definition of brony I used earlier is fair, and applies to a very specific group of people. If you met someone else who watches FiM in real life, you'd have a lot to talk about, no? Whether either of you are involved with the fandom or not is irrelevant.
traffik: @PinkBallons: "Again, you're associating the term with only the hardcore fans..." Yes, I am. I specifically said so myself. My personal feeling is that 'brony' doesn't mean exactly the same thing now as it did when the term first came into use. Things evolve. You can feel differently, that's fine. I'm still going to have my opinion, which has been in part fostered by seeing hardcore fans derogatorily refer to less obsessed fans as 'casuals'.
Also, I don't really consider being here as placing me in the 'fan community'. I've been coming to paheal since before MLP:FiM was on the air; I'd be here one way or the other. Yes, there are sites that I visit that feature FiM content, but that's incidental. I don't visit any sites that are FiM-centric. For instance, I've visited Equestria Daily literally once in my life, just to see what it was about. I stayed for about 2 minutes, then was like "OK, I'm good".
The definition of 'brony' that you used is indeed fair. But it's your definition, not mine. And while many people-- even a majority-- may go by your definition, mine's a little different. So I don't call myself a brony per se. You might call me that, but then it's a little ludicrous for you to suggest that you know me better than I do.
PinkBallons: @traffik: I meant the MLP section of Paheal in particular, but I see your point. I rarely see you here.
Yes, the fandom has evolved, but I feel the term brony has not...Then again, I didn't know about the show until season 1 was almost over, and didn't start browsing Paheal (my only real interaction with the fandom, both then and since) until season 2 had begun. I never experienced the early bronies as you did, so I can only be told of that evolution.
Choose your place as you will, friend.
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That's like the least important thing to care about. Shouldn't you rather care about economical disasters, life-threatening diseases or just people being mean to each other?
I could still somewhat understand it if you dislike the fandom because it can have a tendency to shove things down your throat, but hating on the show itself..? Actively going to a porn website just to tell people that you want the show to be cancelled. Why? Are you just bored or do you really think this is a meaningful task?
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Second, the show's creator herself has said that the ponies mate just like horses in our world. While sex isn't something that happens within the show (for reasons that are completely obvious), the ponies still do it, along with many other things that would be inappropriate for the child audience. Exploring those things through art and sharing it with others does not make people "jerks".
Still, i sometimes watch a lot those youtube clips from 2011 when I first discovered the show.. when the fans wasn't so.. insane and overly diverse yet.
And it's true bronies won't disappear even if they cancel the show.. MLP:FiM is one of those things people are going to obsess over for a loong time.
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Others can disagree, and that's fine, because in the end the only person who gets to choose what labels apply to me is me.
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The reason I understand where you're coming from is because I also refuse to accept a label others would place upon me. I've been called a furry many times simply because I enjoy FiM, as under the loosest of definitions, I do fit into that category. I don't agree with that definition, however. It's ridiculous to claim people are part of a group the instant they enjoy any form of anthropomorphization, as by that definition I can guarantee 80% or more of the world's population are furries.
The point in all of this is that I feel the definition of brony I used earlier is fair, and applies to a very specific group of people. If you met someone else who watches FiM in real life, you'd have a lot to talk about, no? Whether either of you are involved with the fandom or not is irrelevant.
Also, I don't really consider being here as placing me in the 'fan community'. I've been coming to paheal since before MLP:FiM was on the air; I'd be here one way or the other. Yes, there are sites that I visit that feature FiM content, but that's incidental. I don't visit any sites that are FiM-centric. For instance, I've visited Equestria Daily literally once in my life, just to see what it was about. I stayed for about 2 minutes, then was like "OK, I'm good".
The definition of 'brony' that you used is indeed fair. But it's your definition, not mine. And while many people-- even a majority-- may go by your definition, mine's a little different. So I don't call myself a brony per se. You might call me that, but then it's a little ludicrous for you to suggest that you know me better than I do.
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Yes, the fandom has evolved, but I feel the term brony has not...Then again, I didn't know about the show until season 1 was almost over, and didn't start browsing Paheal (my only real interaction with the fandom, both then and since) until season 2 had begun. I never experienced the early bronies as you did, so I can only be told of that evolution.
Choose your place as you will, friend.