Anonymous3(2): @Anonymous: Well in Shaun of the Dead, the military showed up and immediately sorted things out. I figure things usually go the way they do in other stories is that it’s a part of the message they’re trying to convey or story they’re trying to tell. Maybe the army rolling up and taking care of it is anti-climactic from a cinematic perspective. The cause has to come from somewhere and in a setting about logic, survival and such, it can only reasonably be caused by people with the money and power to do it, if not the army than probably a pharmaceutical company. I guess there’s more poetry or irony for humanity to be th cause of their own extinction as opposed to something alien and external.
Anonymous6(2): @Anonymous: I’m guessing like Scream in the killings sort of way and not so much the the meta, self-referential and reconstructive of a genre way.
Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of people try to replicate Predator. Anything successful on any level is gonna have some people want to capitalize on it. I dunno if you’ve seen Frankenweenie but it definitely seems like a commentary on that kind of mentality. Of seeing something done out of genuine love and passion and people seeing that, taking the wrong lessons from it and imitating it.
The Relic is definitely something I’ve heard rumblings of before but have never seen or even aware of what it’s really about. I don’t think I’ve even seen a poster or cover of it but it’s a title or name that’s been brought up before.
Anonymous7(2): @Anonymous: Well I think anytime the military in these situations in media fail to handle the situation can be chalked up to human error. They are just people with orders. It could be they were sent into a situation with maybe not the most ideal weapons for it dealing with something they aren’t fully prepared for. Kind of like how the infantry in Starship Troopers are sent on foot basically as cannon fodder. And in being put in a situation that might be horrific, people can panic and maybe not handle it too well. Also I believe the world of Walking Dead is completely without zombie media hence why they’re called walkers and such. They’re not familiar with the rules of dealing with them and kind of have to figure things out as they happen like how a bite is generally fatal. There isn’t exactly a reason why they don’t immediately go for headshots other than the fact they figured that they could be put down with conventional means. I think the space marines in Aliens kinda shows how confidence quickly crumbles when you’re totally blindsided.
Anonymous8(2): @Anonymous: @Anonymous: Speaking of tanks and helicopters, supposedly the Walking Dead originally had ideas and plans to do flashbacks to Atlanta with the tank basically showing how everything went to shit. It was scrapped though because AMC wanted to save money, cut costs and reap the benefits and profits of an already high viewership and that idea would’ve been very costly.
I honestly don’t know the ins and outs of military hardware, its capabilities, limitations and effectiveness in this hypothetical. I’m sure someone who’s dealt with it personally or someone who’s really into it and has done extensive research or has intimate knowledge could so this is me merely speculating. But I think either option is going to have limited success dealing with that many, especially in a city or street like that. Tanks are slow, loud and not very mobile. Easily draws them in leaving you pretty much surrounded and boxed in. Also unlike normal people who you can intimidate, zombies aren’t afraid. They’ll stick around and keep coming regardless of what you do to them and I have no idea what countless bodies and guts will do to those treads or moving parts. I dunno how much fire power whichever helicopter you wanna go with has or with how much accuracy and how effectively you can nail them in the head from above with it. Again it takes destroying very specific parts of their anatomy or you could just dump whatever explosives handy on them. There was that helicopter vs infected people scene in 28 Weeks Later. You’re relatively safe from the zombies so long as you stay in the vehicles and out of reach but sooner or later ammo and gas will run out.
Anonymous9(2): @Anonymous: Fire seems to have limited success. It’ll hold them back temporarily but it doesn’t get rid of them altogether. It might give you some room to avoid getting overwhelmed and time to think of a plan or get your ass moving. Weaknesses themselves are valuable intel and an advantage but it doesn’t guarantee success altogether.
And if we’re talking Return of the Living Dead zombies, they’re even harder to deal with and can think and talk.
Glad you found a solution. Probably not the most exciting thing to watch someone completely out of reach and safe while shooting at them like fish in a barrel but hey, if it works than it works. Kind of like a man fighting a bear with a machine gun while standing fifty feet away. I mean, it’s still pretty exciting but it has become less of a fight and more like target practice. And if drones enter the mix than they don’t even have to be there at all.
Anonymous10(2): @Anonymous: Just like cellphones, drones are gonna be that thing in movies that need an explanation of why it can’t be used in a given situation. Maybe bad weather or poor visibility or something.
I haven’t seen all sequels to every horror film. They tend to all go pretty bad very quickly. But I think one of the sequels to Return had electricity neutralize the zombies effectively. I think it kind of ruins how unstoppable they are. I always took it as death is inevitable, you can’t fight it and it’ll come for us all eventually, all one can do is merely postpone it.
It’s definitely a worst case scenario. In Return, I believe the initial outbreak came from a barrel that was government property so they’re somewhat knowledgeable about what they are and what they’re capable of.
Anonymous11(2): @Anonymous: Well electricity is usually shown as cause for bringing life to something. To animate or reanimate so I guess for zombies, it’s kind of an unusual idea to put them down. I don’t if this idea was explored in the Walking Dead show but in the comics said the cold would slow them down since they’re no longer warm. I’m not sure how they managed put tar man into the tank in the first place but I’m guessing they slowed down and froze him with coolants maybe.
I think a lot of things are kind of watered down by sequels, especially if they were made with none in mind and the only thing fuelling future projects is corporate greed. I mean Halloween went from Donald Pleasence saying he saw evil in a little boy to Busta Rhymes saying “Trick or treat, motherfucker.” Of course there are kind of interesting or worthwhile ideas in this mixed bag. I mean if it weren’t for sequels, Friday the 13th never would’ve had the iconic hockey mask or Tommy Jarvis.
I kind of wish they went with radioactive zombie apocalypse though. Seeing how the government would react to knowing their best bet didn’t solve the problem but exacerbated things. Frankly I don’t think burning them works since remains and chemicals spread even in fumes. I guess the chemicals themselves should be studied to find a way to counter it if they had the time and luxury.
Anonymous12(2): @Anonymous: I mean funny bad is still bad. I do wish though that LL Cool J would appear in one of these slasher movies and say “Mama said knock you out, I’m gonna knock you out!” to one of these fools. Maybe Jason because he’s a big mama’s boy. Or Freddy because that’s what Amanda Krueger probably would’ve wanted. Also I would’ve loved to have seen Chucky and Freddy in a movie either against or together since they’re probably the most charismatic killers with personalities that are capable of talking trash. Freddy, Chucky and Ash just shit talkin’ one another is what I need.
I actually had a dream once that people survived a zombie apocalypse and started a community inside a Walmart. Because it’s huge and has everything. But yeah, I actually like the idea of people trying to restart things sort of like parts of 28 Weeks or Land of. Usually things fall apart though because I guess the idea of how things would function or play out isn’t interesting or doesn’t sit well with people. I think health care and possible risks would be treated with more care and attention as well as mental health. Definitely less freedom in this potential new world order and some people don’t like to be told to wear masks nowadays so obviously the problems are again gonna be about cooperation and fitting in with standards or control. If you’re sick, you’ll probably just be confined or detained in isolation, observed and studied to make sure you’re not a security risk.
Anonymous13(2): @Anonymous: I had a lot of weird dreams back when I could still dream. Plenty of which involved zombies.
It’s strange that a little fabric over one’s face just to something can spark so much outrage.
Maybe there’s no cure for someone already infected but maybe a possible vaccine for immunity or prevention of future cases. Something that major definitely would be worked on regardless of how impossible it may seem to be.
Anonymous14(2): @Anonymous: Y’know, I somehow almost forgot about how crazy in-demand a commodity like tissue for the bum was for a hot second.
It’s interesting to see people theorize and speculate by how the infection works and spreads to determine what it might potentially be. And I guess by using terms like infection and spread, most would presume virus. I do like thought, logic or rules to how things usually work whether or not there’s an explanation for it. It might not make sense in the real world but there is an internal logic. Although I think I have to disagree with the guy on his stance on it not being supernatural simply because of the head in the cooler. Also there is a lot of mentions of religion in the film. Could be ironic or merely incidental like this is just what some people think or feel about the situation and the music in the opening credits is just thematically similar or fitting but it can’t be all coincidence I think. Most of the time in zombie features, what it is isn’t important but how we deal with it is.
Anonymous15(2): @Anonymous: And people’s inability to cooperate, work together or get along is part of why their haven, safe place or paradise is lost. The world could be ending and we’re still fighting other people and at each others’ throats. The line is chilling and has a foreboding tone to it and it seems like the world is the way it is (hell on earth) because we make it that way. I kinda feel like that’s why most of the Dead movies by Romero have sort of a bleak ending.
Anonymous16(2): @Anonymous: That’s pretty cool. I can’t remember the last time I won anything. I hope you really gave thought into what you want made.
Well bleak as in humanity’s chances and hope are kinda effed. There will always be survivors here and there but that’s the best you can hope for really, survival. I guess open ended or ambiguous is as good as an ending that you can really hope for given that situation.
Anonymous17(2): @Anonymous: I like the snowy times even if it means I have to a lot of shoveling. Probably prefer to be out of it than in it, the snow I mean. And I love a good snowy day movie. The Thing, the Grey, Snowpiercer. Still haven’t watched Frozen though. Just bits and pieces of it with my nieces.
Anonymous18(2): @Anonymous: I thought 30 Days was alright. Certainly good idea or premise. Never read the comic it was based on though. I guess the Shining is sort of chilling too, especially by the end.
I probably would’ve went with the Cold of the Dead or something. I certainly liked the idea of seeing other parts of the world deal with the outbreak. Maybe people head to colder climates because the zombies slow up, it’s harder for them to move in the snow and it’s not as densely populated as someplace warmer. The zombies could almost look palish blue due to the cold or black due to frostbite.
Yeah, I’ve seen a lot of people try to replicate Predator. Anything successful on any level is gonna have some people want to capitalize on it. I dunno if you’ve seen Frankenweenie but it definitely seems like a commentary on that kind of mentality. Of seeing something done out of genuine love and passion and people seeing that, taking the wrong lessons from it and imitating it.
The Relic is definitely something I’ve heard rumblings of before but have never seen or even aware of what it’s really about. I don’t think I’ve even seen a poster or cover of it but it’s a title or name that’s been brought up before.
I honestly don’t know the ins and outs of military hardware, its capabilities, limitations and effectiveness in this hypothetical. I’m sure someone who’s dealt with it personally or someone who’s really into it and has done extensive research or has intimate knowledge could so this is me merely speculating. But I think either option is going to have limited success dealing with that many, especially in a city or street like that. Tanks are slow, loud and not very mobile. Easily draws them in leaving you pretty much surrounded and boxed in. Also unlike normal people who you can intimidate, zombies aren’t afraid. They’ll stick around and keep coming regardless of what you do to them and I have no idea what countless bodies and guts will do to those treads or moving parts. I dunno how much fire power whichever helicopter you wanna go with has or with how much accuracy and how effectively you can nail them in the head from above with it. Again it takes destroying very specific parts of their anatomy or you could just dump whatever explosives handy on them. There was that helicopter vs infected people scene in 28 Weeks Later. You’re relatively safe from the zombies so long as you stay in the vehicles and out of reach but sooner or later ammo and gas will run out.
And if we’re talking Return of the Living Dead zombies, they’re even harder to deal with and can think and talk.
Glad you found a solution. Probably not the most exciting thing to watch someone completely out of reach and safe while shooting at them like fish in a barrel but hey, if it works than it works. Kind of like a man fighting a bear with a machine gun while standing fifty feet away. I mean, it’s still pretty exciting but it has become less of a fight and more like target practice. And if drones enter the mix than they don’t even have to be there at all.
I haven’t seen all sequels to every horror film. They tend to all go pretty bad very quickly. But I think one of the sequels to Return had electricity neutralize the zombies effectively. I think it kind of ruins how unstoppable they are. I always took it as death is inevitable, you can’t fight it and it’ll come for us all eventually, all one can do is merely postpone it.
It’s definitely a worst case scenario. In Return, I believe the initial outbreak came from a barrel that was government property so they’re somewhat knowledgeable about what they are and what they’re capable of.
I think a lot of things are kind of watered down by sequels, especially if they were made with none in mind and the only thing fuelling future projects is corporate greed. I mean Halloween went from Donald Pleasence saying he saw evil in a little boy to Busta Rhymes saying “Trick or treat, motherfucker.” Of course there are kind of interesting or worthwhile ideas in this mixed bag. I mean if it weren’t for sequels, Friday the 13th never would’ve had the iconic hockey mask or Tommy Jarvis.
I kind of wish they went with radioactive zombie apocalypse though. Seeing how the government would react to knowing their best bet didn’t solve the problem but exacerbated things. Frankly I don’t think burning them works since remains and chemicals spread even in fumes. I guess the chemicals themselves should be studied to find a way to counter it if they had the time and luxury.
I actually had a dream once that people survived a zombie apocalypse and started a community inside a Walmart. Because it’s huge and has everything. But yeah, I actually like the idea of people trying to restart things sort of like parts of 28 Weeks or Land of. Usually things fall apart though because I guess the idea of how things would function or play out isn’t interesting or doesn’t sit well with people. I think health care and possible risks would be treated with more care and attention as well as mental health. Definitely less freedom in this potential new world order and some people don’t like to be told to wear masks nowadays so obviously the problems are again gonna be about cooperation and fitting in with standards or control. If you’re sick, you’ll probably just be confined or detained in isolation, observed and studied to make sure you’re not a security risk.
It’s strange that a little fabric over one’s face just to something can spark so much outrage.
Maybe there’s no cure for someone already infected but maybe a possible vaccine for immunity or prevention of future cases. Something that major definitely would be worked on regardless of how impossible it may seem to be.
It’s interesting to see people theorize and speculate by how the infection works and spreads to determine what it might potentially be. And I guess by using terms like infection and spread, most would presume virus. I do like thought, logic or rules to how things usually work whether or not there’s an explanation for it. It might not make sense in the real world but there is an internal logic. Although I think I have to disagree with the guy on his stance on it not being supernatural simply because of the head in the cooler. Also there is a lot of mentions of religion in the film. Could be ironic or merely incidental like this is just what some people think or feel about the situation and the music in the opening credits is just thematically similar or fitting but it can’t be all coincidence I think. Most of the time in zombie features, what it is isn’t important but how we deal with it is.
And alright. I’ll see ya when I see ya.
Well bleak as in humanity’s chances and hope are kinda effed. There will always be survivors here and there but that’s the best you can hope for really, survival. I guess open ended or ambiguous is as good as an ending that you can really hope for given that situation.
I probably would’ve went with the Cold of the Dead or something. I certainly liked the idea of seeing other parts of the world deal with the outbreak. Maybe people head to colder climates because the zombies slow up, it’s harder for them to move in the snow and it’s not as densely populated as someplace warmer. The zombies could almost look palish blue due to the cold or black due to frostbite.