Anonymous5: Juno, if you’re seeing this, please, go to therapy. I will literally pay for you if you can’t afford it. Seriously. You may be a child yourself and these may be fictional characters, but they are still kids. Fictional or not. You are fucked up in the head. Grow a pair and apologize for the shit you’ve done instead of avoiding it. God damn.
Anonymous8: "spreading awareness" you're literally harassing a kid over drawings man, you're making the world a worse place. Don't mistake it, there's no conditionals that make it okay to harass someone over a fantasy drawing, literally none.
Anonymous10: @Anonymous: Trying to “help” someone who actively does not want your “help” is harassment. I’m pretty sure what they’d like is to be able to post their drawings in peace, so that people who mysteriously enjoy guro and have literally never had any kind of issue with separating between reality and stupid cartoon drawings can enjoy them. Why do you need to “spread awareness” to help them if its not harassment? Dude, what you’re doing is actually worse than harassment. It’s basically ideological terrorism. You’re getting a bunch of people to pressure a kid into caving and giving up their free expression. With all due respect, fuck off.
Anonymous11(10): Also just because they’re taking it on the coin does not mean that it isn’t harmful so don’t think you can escape guilt. You’re harassing kids online because you care more about controlling what they draw than their own well-being. They didn’t want your “help” and so you’re trying to “help” by force. Pray the Gay Away camps would be proud of your technique.
Anonymous12: This is too intense for me to jerk off to, but I must say that I respect Juno for continuing to advance the intensity in face of harassment. Respect bro. The old internet would've loved you.
Anonymous13(12): @Anonymous: dude, what the fuck are you saying? The internet isn't for you. Free expression isn't limited to what you find gross. You kids have got to stop. If you don't like it, you fucking stop looking at it.
Anonymous17(8): @Anonymous: with all due respect, I'm probably twice your age, probably make more money than you ever will, and I don't have a Twitter account. I bet you don't even know how to live without the internet. You touch grass.
Anonymous21(8): Y'know. I recognize that a lot of kids are going to come here no matter what kinds of attempts you make to stop them. It's such a joke that some kids seem to be genuinely unaware that it's against the law for them to view porn. And hell, I'm not saying I agree with that law. But come on, can you at least pretend to be mature? Please? It's really simple, if you don't like an image you shouldn't view it. Making jokes in the comments is fine but try not to make an ass of yourself.
Anonymous27(12): Spamming the report function on an image that is rule abiding, which this one is, is a potentially ban worthy offense. Just to let all of the little kiddies in the comments know. As a matter of fact... Go ahead and log in and do it.
Anonymous30: I came here to remind you that age is just a number IN FICTION (Unless the creator of the character made it based off of themselves and are of course underage)
Anonymous34: what a comment section. this goes to show that we're probably still not civilized enough to say anything on the internet even to this day.
now I'm not a fan of the art personally. and I could care even less about the arbitrary ages of some random 2d characters. but what's more concerning to me is how the artist says they're a minor themselves with a fuckin nsfw account, without any consequence, THAT i think is bad. if this is cope art, they should probably just not be posting it in public. but regardless fictional artwork is a perfectly valid method of coping with trauma, and is already therapeutic and helpful, and psychiatrists will confirm it. but once again my bigger worry is that the artist is posting this publicly as a minor, this can be very dangerous to them.
Anonymous36: @Anonymous: I agree that it is not necessarily great that kids are getting into pornographic subject matters. However, it's hard to really do anything about; they're already too deep in it. You can't undo losing your innocence.
Besides that, there is something to be said about the arbitrary age of majority. I don't think many would bat an eye over horny 17 year olds, that's a lot of the internet anyways. It is a bit weird to consume art from said people, but yeah. Not anything obvious to do about it. They go through puberty and get horny, and their peers and the internet will ruin their innocence.
As for the danger to them, some of that is gonna come down to ensuring they're are literate enough to stay safe online regardless of what they do. It's not going well because people nowadays seem to borderline d0x themselves for no reason >_>
Anonymous37(36): @Anonymous: addendum: I also find it really sad that people honestly think that there is any good reason to "spread awareness" about this.
If the content is harmful and it's dissemination must be stopped, you're doing the opposite. If you care about the artist and you want what's best for them, then you have to respect healthy boundaries; people are allowed to engage in what you view as destructive or dangerous behavior as long as it is within the law. And I know a lot of you have pretend PhDs in law from Twitter threads about the subject, but sorry, there is no legal issue with this image. The words you keep using to describe these images have criteria in law that is usually not met. Moreover, in the U.S., the first amendment generally trumps local and state laws that may inhibit freedom of expression. Finally, the last bastion of "illegal expressions" is obscenity, but whenever obscenity law comes near a constitutional challenge it loses. The U.S. government stopped trying like 10 years ago. If you're praying to God for an artist to go to prison over this, first of all go fuck yourself, second of all, good luck because it's not fucking happening.
Anonymous43: Alright so, lets start. What the fuck even happened to this juno or whatever, like what drove them into enjoying and endorsing this crap? AND I UNDERSTAND that it is not illegal by any means, because no one is being harmed except the viewers, BUT, I MEAN...people get told to get off the internet for way less, and yes, i know they were told to but probably won't...i guess what i'm trying to say is: this is pretty fucked up, and they are fucked in the head, AND they should probably lose their internet privileges, like actually get beat up by their parents and lose access to wifi.
Anonymous44(43): Anyone supporting them is pretty much there for the fucked up fap material, because they either just think that the style is cute and don't understand how fucked up it is, or the very opposite which is pretty much THRIVE in this debauchery. There is like literally no defense to this, yes they do have the freedom to draw whatever they like, doesn't mean they will draw this crap without any backlash or without going unnoticed. Best you can do is stand down and look away. If their few fucked up fans who won't abandon this shit no matter what want to sink in that titanic with them, they have full right to it. Artist will probably end up killing themselves or getting killed by someone who really doesn't like this. Just don't harass them, and don't try helping them either because at this point its very obvious they don't need any help, they ENJOY doing all of this.
Anonymous45: @Anonymous: Hi I have the answer for why I'm so defensive: I am now 30 years old (approx) and when I was 15 I drew similarly sadistic artwork. It took a really long time to understand if this was OK and if I was going to be a dangerous person. The answer is super obvious now to me that fantasizing about a thing and doing it are really different and enjoying the fantasy isn't really a sign that you're at risk of committing a crime. It's simple: having a sick, dark fantasy doesn't really correlate to other aspects of your person. In particular I actually found that when I finally saw a fucked up rape situation IRL I was quite disturbed. It didn't impact how grotesque my fantasies were, but it helped me understand that I never wanted this type of thing to actually happen.
Now when I say shit like this nobody believes me because it's too easy to just jump over to saying I'm lying one way or another. And you know I don't really care if people believe me or if I actually ever convince anyone. But the thing is, the reason why so many people jump to defend this is because they know deep down it's completely possible to love fucked up porn without being an actual sadistic rapist. I mean come on, you know when someone's caught touching kids it's usually, like 90% of the time, not the people who are into DDLG and IoIi.
This draws a lot of parallels to the video game debates that I also went through. Why did we play games like Mortal Kombat and DOOM? No matter how much we tried, the boomers could never understand the answer: because it's fun. Did it mean we were dangerous? No.
So why do people draw this and fap to this? Because it makes them hard. Does that mean people who do are dangerous? No.
Obviously the anti folks are winning the battle on mindshare because it's too easy to just draw a direct connection between the worst taboos and these drawings, but nobody has come up with a good explanation for why violent video games wound up being OK. Everyone thinks that sick art will make people do sick things, but actually sex crime has mostly decreased with widespread internet access. Even if there's no causation there, that should tell you that at least this shit is not making any noticeable statistical impact. And it's not exactly new... So if it was going to, you'd have expected it to.
Anonymous48: @Anonymous: THANK YOU FOR WRITING THIS!!!
Really, it was soooo needed!
I could talk about this for HOURS, even talking about Aristotle's catharsis and his Poetic, about what new philosphers think about it like Badiou, I could make a pretty elaborate speech about why such images aren't hurtful at all and don't make the person who drew them a psycho, but antis don't want to listen and unluckily most people are antis in fandoms... and when I try to talk in a complex way about this I only receive answers like "Lol, you are a pedo freak".
Anonymous49: @Anonymous: Don't want to sound like an asshole who is ignoring everything you say, but most of that sounds like coping, and many of the examples you use literally don't co-relate in any fucking way whatsoever. WHO EVEN LIKES DOOM? Mortal Kombat, sure, though the game has never been very gory for me since i was too much of a kid to get the fatalities right. You're trying to compare beating people up in a very fun and competitive way, which sometimes, sure, gory, to fucking BUTCHERING, CANNIBALIZING AND RAPING KIDS in varied order. It pretty much seems like you're trying to justify the unjustifiable, but as i said, i won't be a pain in your butt. You aren't harming anyone BUT the people who look at it by being a weirdo, so, whatever floats your boat i guess.
Anonymous50(49): @Anonymous: Like i understand for the most that being into something, doing said something are completely different parallel universes. But don't try justifying shit so poorly, just admit that you're a freak who enjoys doing what they do and isn't afraid to be judged. Anyways, thank you for taking your time replying on rule motherfucking 34. Atleast we know you care about your image now. Keep Skid and Pump out of this (this is just me speaking straight out of bias) x)
Anonymous51: @Anonymous: No offense but are you really ignorant about the most influential FPS game in history? Sure, being from 1993 it is indeed old enough that some kids have never played it. But hell, even DOOM 2016 was a best seller.
As far as things go, my problem with you (and others) is definitely not that I care if you find something I might like disgusting. (Getthly goes too far for me often times, so I mean, personally I don't like all of the drawings personally.) And I am NOT trying to "justify" anything. In fact, what I am saying is, you shouldn't have to justify a fantasy. Why would you need to justify it? It's not like anyone is materially harmed by the mere expression of a fantasy. It's not being pushed on you; this site is indeed a place where hardcore gore is allowed so it shouldn't come as a surprise.
I'm not trying to cope with or justify anything. When people go around talking big game about how morally bad these drawings are, how they should be illegal, how the artist should kill themselves, that can be quite intimidating. I know people are entitled to their opinions but trust me, I also realize when you come into someone's space to let them know how disgusted you are that's not just innocently having an opinion; you're trying to shame people. I am now older and more confident, so it no longer does much to me. But it's working very well on the next generation, making them feel horrible for trying to indulge in fantasies they don't really control in a safe and harmless way.
Even if you are the most stubborn person in the world and refuse to budge even slightly.. can I just ask what you think you're going to accomplish anyways? Like... Do you think this is actually going to make this go away? How come when it comes to issues like this, the problems are always systematic, but the accountability is singular? Whatever. Do what you want. I probably can't convince you, and even if I could you can't convince your friends, so in a way we're both just engaging in exercises of futility. But I bet you some day you'll see the empathetic side. Remember it.
Anonymous52(49): @Anonymous: And i even said not trying to offend you. Because i really wanted to say this kindly, but DOOM FUCKING SUCKS! Whats so cool about wasting hours and hours killing a bunch of shitty weak ass demons that can literally easily be handled by any weapon you have in your inventory? "Hah because you get cool chainsaw animations when you're cutting them up haha funny gore" shut the fuck up. The only reason i could find for anyone playing it in a comfortable way would be coping material for going through hard times, AND EVEN THEN the game is boring as fuck. So many good games from the same time and they are overshadowed by mr stab a bunch of demons for funny kill animations. Fuck Doom. But enough about it, as i said, i was speaking out of straight bias. I fucking despise gross shit like this for obvious reasons (Which are mostly common sense btw). And i want to try and understand but i really can't. There is no appeal in ruining life. Whether you're proud to showcase your capabilities of drawing random fictional characters with their innards hanging out, or you got abused in your childhood: there is no justification on drawing this. You can just straight up call yourself a psychopath if you find pleasure in it. I don't HAVE to empathize, because there's nothing to feel empathetic for. You're some sick minded little shit who gets off to the literal destruction of life, and I KNOW once again, it is just fiction. But still, fantasizing about fiction doesn't change the theme, or the fact that its fucked up. Doesn't matter if you jerk off to amputees, straight up people being butchered OR fictional characters being butchered. In the end of the day, you get off to about the most awful thing there is, and there is no denying someone will eventually not be comprehensible enough to let you get away with it so easily. Trust me, i've seen people ruin lives for way less. If you witnessed the same things i did back at old anarchy, you'd see things from a different, more mature point of view. What i'm trying to say is: internet trolls are the least intimidating thing, when you know the REAL DEAL. So don't push your fucking luck PAL. Live life as gratefully and optimistically as possible, and enjoy it throughly, AND HOPE to GOD (if you're christian or whatever) that you don't trigger someone with morals, atleast not enough to get your head cut off. This is not a threat, this is merely a tip of good faith, a warning maybe, if you will. Out of genuine concern, and, as you'd like, empathy.
Anonymous63: @Anonymous: can you instead? What do you even do that's useful? At least I can jerk off to this, you're just a literal waste of everyone's time.
Anonymous74: It's a fad. In the Twitter era, everyone wants to be a heroic protagonist fighting against a cartoon villain. When the curtain falls, you see there's no such thing.
Unfortunately, the only cure is time. So, you'll just have to wait if you want people to STFU. Freaks predate anti crap and will surely continue on after it.
Anonymous82: bro, comments be goin wiiiild. But, fr, u fuckers clicked on this, should've expected messed up shit, dumbasses. Plus, this is r34, everything and anything will be posted here, if u don't like it, don't click on it, dumbasses
Anonymous86: @Anonymous: No and if I see you organizing sincerely I will report you to the authorities and the administration of the websites you are using to do it. Not a joke in any sense.
Anonymous91: Mark: OH GOD DAMN IT COME ONNN!, STOP GOING UP IN THE AIR AND FUCKING GO FORWARD YOU FUCKING FUUUUUUUUCCCCCCKKKKK!!!, What the-- I-- I don't understand... how I suddenly...can't fucking run... WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING!!!???? JUST FUCKING GOOO!! WHAT THE FUCK??!! WHAT THE FUCK??!! WHAT THE FUCK??!! JUST FUCKING GO! ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME?? FUCK OFF WITH YOUU! WHAT THE FUCCKK?? I'm sorry... I lost my cool a little bit there... That was the most frustrating thing I've ever done in my entire life. I am not exaggerating. That was literally the most frustarting thing I've ever seen in my life. And here i go again... come on... Come on... AHHH!! Fucking come on... OH MY GOOOOOOOODDDDDDDD! OH MY GOOOOOOOODDDDDDDD! Yeah! That was Something! That was something that resembled NOT sucking ASS. GOD, you almost made it, huh? But you didn't quite make it because the entire first half of the god damn race, you were too busy sucking everyone else's dick!! OH MY GOOODDD OH MY GOOODDD OH MY GOOODDD OH MY GOOODDD OH MY GOOODDD OH MY GOOODDD, I FUCKING HATE THIS-- GOD DAMNIT! Holy Shit... Wha- ehh- eH- AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH How am I doing worse every time? I'm doing literally worse... Every time I go After this thing I'm doing worse! What the fuck?! OH MY GOODDD! No! You were off to such a good start! WHAAATTT?? WHAAATTT?? WHAAATTT?? WHAT THE FUCK!!! OH MY GOD! OH MY GOD! Ohh... I can't take this...I can't do it. This is not an exaggeration. I'm not fucking do anything... Holy shit! I can't fucking take this! i literally...cannot fucking take this... This is.. ridiculous... Ohh my god-- are you kidding me?! Why?! Why?! I don't get-- WHYY??!! WHYYY??!! WHHYYYYYYYYYYYY?!?!!! Ohh my god... HOL-- I fucking ca-- FUUUUUCK! OH MY GOD! Oh my God, I can't- AH! Teach me again. What the Fuck do you do?! Oh, oh, oh! Oh! OH! Oh-- No, NO, NO... No, no, no, no! NO! NO! FUCK IT! NO! FUCK YOU, NOOO! I'm done. I'm done with this FUCKING game. I'm done, I wi-- No, I will not, I was having a good time. I was having a good fucking time. I was having a GREAT time playing the game and then you throw that BULLSHIT at me. I am fucking done...you guys don't get it, it's infuriating. What's the number one thing I hate? Bad controls. I fucking HATE that. GOOD GOD! I don't have the patience to be good at you!
Anonymous100: this is the biggest comment section on this website I've ever seen. Seems like the artist enjoys all the negative attention their art attracts
now I'm not a fan of the art personally. and I could care even less about the arbitrary ages of some random 2d characters. but what's more concerning to me is how the artist says they're a minor themselves with a fuckin nsfw account, without any consequence, THAT i think is bad. if this is cope art, they should probably just not be posting it in public. but regardless fictional artwork is a perfectly valid method of coping with trauma, and is already therapeutic and helpful, and psychiatrists will confirm it. but once again my bigger worry is that the artist is posting this publicly as a minor, this can be very dangerous to them.
Besides that, there is something to be said about the arbitrary age of majority. I don't think many would bat an eye over horny 17 year olds, that's a lot of the internet anyways. It is a bit weird to consume art from said people, but yeah. Not anything obvious to do about it. They go through puberty and get horny, and their peers and the internet will ruin their innocence.
As for the danger to them, some of that is gonna come down to ensuring they're are literate enough to stay safe online regardless of what they do. It's not going well because people nowadays seem to borderline d0x themselves for no reason >_>
If the content is harmful and it's dissemination must be stopped, you're doing the opposite. If you care about the artist and you want what's best for them, then you have to respect healthy boundaries; people are allowed to engage in what you view as destructive or dangerous behavior as long as it is within the law. And I know a lot of you have pretend PhDs in law from Twitter threads about the subject, but sorry, there is no legal issue with this image. The words you keep using to describe these images have criteria in law that is usually not met. Moreover, in the U.S., the first amendment generally trumps local and state laws that may inhibit freedom of expression. Finally, the last bastion of "illegal expressions" is obscenity, but whenever obscenity law comes near a constitutional challenge it loses. The U.S. government stopped trying like 10 years ago. If you're praying to God for an artist to go to prison over this, first of all go fuck yourself, second of all, good luck because it's not fucking happening.
Now when I say shit like this nobody believes me because it's too easy to just jump over to saying I'm lying one way or another. And you know I don't really care if people believe me or if I actually ever convince anyone. But the thing is, the reason why so many people jump to defend this is because they know deep down it's completely possible to love fucked up porn without being an actual sadistic rapist. I mean come on, you know when someone's caught touching kids it's usually, like 90% of the time, not the people who are into DDLG and IoIi.
This draws a lot of parallels to the video game debates that I also went through. Why did we play games like Mortal Kombat and DOOM? No matter how much we tried, the boomers could never understand the answer: because it's fun. Did it mean we were dangerous? No.
So why do people draw this and fap to this? Because it makes them hard. Does that mean people who do are dangerous? No.
Obviously the anti folks are winning the battle on mindshare because it's too easy to just draw a direct connection between the worst taboos and these drawings, but nobody has come up with a good explanation for why violent video games wound up being OK. Everyone thinks that sick art will make people do sick things, but actually sex crime has mostly decreased with widespread internet access. Even if there's no causation there, that should tell you that at least this shit is not making any noticeable statistical impact. And it's not exactly new... So if it was going to, you'd have expected it to.
Really, it was soooo needed!
I could talk about this for HOURS, even talking about Aristotle's catharsis and his Poetic, about what new philosphers think about it like Badiou, I could make a pretty elaborate speech about why such images aren't hurtful at all and don't make the person who drew them a psycho, but antis don't want to listen and unluckily most people are antis in fandoms... and when I try to talk in a complex way about this I only receive answers like "Lol, you are a pedo freak".
As far as things go, my problem with you (and others) is definitely not that I care if you find something I might like disgusting. (Getthly goes too far for me often times, so I mean, personally I don't like all of the drawings personally.) And I am NOT trying to "justify" anything. In fact, what I am saying is, you shouldn't have to justify a fantasy. Why would you need to justify it? It's not like anyone is materially harmed by the mere expression of a fantasy. It's not being pushed on you; this site is indeed a place where hardcore gore is allowed so it shouldn't come as a surprise.
I'm not trying to cope with or justify anything. When people go around talking big game about how morally bad these drawings are, how they should be illegal, how the artist should kill themselves, that can be quite intimidating. I know people are entitled to their opinions but trust me, I also realize when you come into someone's space to let them know how disgusted you are that's not just innocently having an opinion; you're trying to shame people. I am now older and more confident, so it no longer does much to me. But it's working very well on the next generation, making them feel horrible for trying to indulge in fantasies they don't really control in a safe and harmless way.
Even if you are the most stubborn person in the world and refuse to budge even slightly.. can I just ask what you think you're going to accomplish anyways? Like... Do you think this is actually going to make this go away? How come when it comes to issues like this, the problems are always systematic, but the accountability is singular? Whatever. Do what you want. I probably can't convince you, and even if I could you can't convince your friends, so in a way we're both just engaging in exercises of futility. But I bet you some day you'll see the empathetic side. Remember it.
cant wait for the antis to yell at me
Just kidding lol it's never getting removed
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How about you actually learn the difference between reality and fiction?
Unfortunately, the only cure is time. So, you'll just have to wait if you want people to STFU. Freaks predate anti crap and will surely continue on after it.
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